» Honda Civic 1.4i 75HP

UnDeR_ScOr3 · Beobachter Anmeldedatum: 18.12.2004 Beiträge: 4

hi everyone, i'm going to buy a honda civic 1.4i from 1996, and i saw the posts about how to get 90HP at MaxRev forum, but i didn't understood it well.
Could you send me a well made explanation?? Please! I did not understand what you're mean with a SEAL at Honda by 16€, what do i have to change to obtain the 90HP instead of 75HP

??
Show me how, with photos if possible...

Best Regards, Ricardo :?:

mgutt · 19.12.2004, 09:56

Zitat
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:17 AM
Subject: HONDA Civic MB2

> I'm sorry to bother you again... but i've already posted my doubt at MaxRev
> Forum, and i didn't got any answer.
> I made some research in the web, but i still have some doubts, such as, you
> made two posts at the Forum, in one of them, you say that we only have to
> buy a Seal for the intake, with the part number - Nr.: 16176-P2A-004
> (2.80?), and in the other post you said that we have to buy something else
> with the part number - 16176-P1J-G22 (16?) ... please clarify my doubts.
> Nobody helps me, people even doubt about the existence of the 1.4i with
> 75HP(D14A3)!!
>
> Beste Regards,

Hi Ricardo,

i'm sorry that you didn't get your answer as fast as you want. but the author of the guide isn't here everyday.

but i want to help you as i can.

You need for the mb2 the gasket (seal isn't the right word for "dichtung" in this fact) with the no. 16176-P1J-G22

as the author write's it costs 16,- EUR. But as i know sells honda this part as they want, because they know that the gasket give the power up.

I think it will be the same price as the other gasket (2 - 3 ,-EUR)

As you see in this guide

http://www.maxrev.de/viewtopic.php?t=227

is the no. 16176-P2A-004 for the EJ9 modell, not for the mb2.

But the work steps are nearly the same as you see on the pictures.

UnDeR_ScOr3 · Beobachter Anmeldedatum: 18.12.2004 Beiträge: 4

Ok, thank and sorry to bother you with this... o made some research last nigh, and i discovered some information. Of all you've writed i only didn't understood the difference betwen MB2 and EJ9! If some one could help me in this i appreciate

mgutt · 19.12.2004, 10:18

This is the MB2:

and this is the EJ9:

Motor / Motorcode / Motorbezeichnung / Power / Leistung

Honda Civic MB2:

D14A3 75 PS / D14A7/D14A8 90 PS

Honda Civic EJ9:

D14A4 75 PS / D14A8 90 PS

UnDeR_ScOr3 · Beobachter Anmeldedatum: 18.12.2004 Beiträge: 4

Thats wierd, cause i have a friend with this model...

and in the car papers is an EJ9 and not an MB2.

My Honda Civic is equal to this one...

I think they all share the same chassi, EJ9!
I still do not have the car, I will only go buy it in three days, but i already drive it, and I found that even a Renault Clio 1,2 8v(60HP) can be faster than the Civic, therefore I say that they mine civic have only 75HP too!

mgutt · 19.12.2004, 10:51

no the ej9 limousine has other front lights like that:

and a longer trunk.

UnDeR_ScOr3 · Beobachter Anmeldedatum: 18.12.2004 Beiträge: 4

So, i have to buy the intake gasket(seal) for the civic MB2, right??
The one i'm about to buy it's equal to the green civic i've posted!!

You said that honda dealers, don't like to sell this gasket?? Is that so? I think i can make one gasket with paper... i think there will be no problem, cause it's only air that passes there!

Best Regards

mgutt · 19.12.2004, 12:20

yes thats right, you can use universal gaskets and cut them as you need them. but if you want it a little "stock - look" it will be better with the original. and 3,- eur aren't much against cutting by yourself (an universal gasket costs more i think)

normal paper isn't possible! (heat, oil, etc.)

the honda dealers in germany want to make this setup by themselves. so they want f.e. 150 - 300,- eur for this. (incl. "installation costs"

)

as they lost this money they don't like to sell the parts seperately.

the green and the silver civic are both the mb2. i think you lose that. the silver isn't an civic ej9.

red_ej2 · 20.12.2004, 07:46

Hi,

there is a sheet of metal (as seal) build in between the air-intake and the butterfly valve. If your Civic has 75 HP, the whole in the middle of this seal is half as large as the pipe of the air intake, the new seal´s hole is as large as the pipe of the air intake. This is the only difference between the Civic with 75 HP and 90 HP, nothing else has to be changed (even the controller unit is the same).

Hope that helps.

Alex

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UnDeR_ScOr3 Beobachter Anmeldedatum: 18.12.2004 Beiträge: 4	18.12.2004, 14:54 zitieren hi everyone, i'm going to buy a honda civic 1.4i from 1996, and i saw the posts about how to get 90HP at MaxRev forum, but i didn't understood it well. Could you send me a well made explanation?? Please! I did not understand what you're mean with a SEAL at Honda by 16€, what do i have to change to obtain the 90HP instead of 75HP ?? Show me how, with photos if possible... Best Regards, Ricardo Gefällt mir Teilen twittern
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mgutt Administrator Name: Marc Geschlecht: Anmeldedatum: 28.08.2004 Beiträge: 52421 Wohnort: Lohmar Meine eBay-Auktionen:	19.12.2004, 09:56 zitieren Zitat Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:17 AM Subject: HONDA Civic MB2 > I'm sorry to bother you again... but i've already posted my doubt at MaxRev > Forum, and i didn't got any answer. > I made some research in the web, but i still have some doubts, such as, you > made two posts at the Forum, in one of them, you say that we only have to > buy a Seal for the intake, with the part number - Nr.: 16176-P2A-004 > (2.80?), and in the other post you said that we have to buy something else > with the part number - 16176-P1J-G22 (16?) ... please clarify my doubts. > Nobody helps me, people even doubt about the existence of the 1.4i with > 75HP(D14A3)!! > > Beste Regards, Hi Ricardo, i'm sorry that you didn't get your answer as fast as you want. but the author of the guide isn't here everyday. but i want to help you as i can. You need for the mb2 the gasket (seal isn't the right word for "dichtung" in this fact) with the no. 16176-P1J-G22 as the author write's it costs 16,- EUR. But as i know sells honda this part as they want, because they know that the gasket give the power up. I think it will be the same price as the other gasket (2 - 3 ,-EUR) As you see in this guide http://www.maxrev.de/viewtopic.php?t=227 is the no. 16176-P2A-004 for the EJ9 modell, not for the mb2. But the work steps are nearly the same as you see on the pictures.
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UnDeR_ScOr3 Beobachter Anmeldedatum: 18.12.2004 Beiträge: 4	19.12.2004, 10:00 zitieren Ok, thank and sorry to bother you with this... o made some research last nigh, and i discovered some information. Of all you've writed i only didn't understood the difference betwen MB2 and EJ9! If some one could help me in this i appreciate
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mgutt Administrator Name: Marc Geschlecht: Anmeldedatum: 28.08.2004 Beiträge: 52421 Wohnort: Lohmar Meine eBay-Auktionen:	19.12.2004, 10:18 zitieren This is the MB2: and this is the EJ9: Motor / Motorcode / Motorbezeichnung / Power / Leistung Honda Civic MB2: D14A3 75 PS / D14A7/D14A8 90 PS Honda Civic EJ9: D14A4 75 PS / D14A8 90 PS
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UnDeR_ScOr3 Beobachter Anmeldedatum: 18.12.2004 Beiträge: 4	19.12.2004, 10:33 zitieren Thats wierd, cause i have a friend with this model... and in the car papers is an EJ9 and not an MB2. My Honda Civic is equal to this one... I think they all share the same chassi, EJ9! I still do not have the car, I will only go buy it in three days, but i already drive it, and I found that even a Renault Clio 1,2 8v(60HP) can be faster than the Civic, therefore I say that they mine civic have only 75HP too!
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mgutt Administrator Name: Marc Geschlecht: Anmeldedatum: 28.08.2004 Beiträge: 52421 Wohnort: Lohmar Meine eBay-Auktionen:	19.12.2004, 10:51 zitieren no the ej9 limousine has other front lights like that: and a longer trunk. civic1.jpg - [Bild vergrößern] civic2.jpg - [Bild vergrößern]
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UnDeR_ScOr3 Beobachter Anmeldedatum: 18.12.2004 Beiträge: 4	19.12.2004, 11:36 zitieren So, i have to buy the intake gasket(seal) for the civic MB2, right?? The one i'm about to buy it's equal to the green civic i've posted!! You said that honda dealers, don't like to sell this gasket?? Is that so? I think i can make one gasket with paper... i think there will be no problem, cause it's only air that passes there! Best Regards
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mgutt Administrator Name: Marc Geschlecht: Anmeldedatum: 28.08.2004 Beiträge: 52421 Wohnort: Lohmar Meine eBay-Auktionen:	19.12.2004, 12:20 zitieren yes thats right, you can use universal gaskets and cut them as you need them. but if you want it a little "stock - look" it will be better with the original. and 3,- eur aren't much against cutting by yourself (an universal gasket costs more i think) normal paper isn't possible! (heat, oil, etc.) the honda dealers in germany want to make this setup by themselves. so they want f.e. 150 - 300,- eur for this. (incl. "installation costs" ) as they lost this money they don't like to sell the parts seperately. the green and the silver civic are both the mb2. i think you lose that. the silver isn't an civic ej9.
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red_ej2 Junior Geschlecht: Fahrzeug: EJ2 Anmeldedatum: 20.12.2004 Beiträge: 57 Wohnort: 74076 Heilbronn	20.12.2004, 07:46 zitieren Hi, there is a sheet of metal (as seal) build in between the air-intake and the butterfly valve. If your Civic has 75 HP, the whole in the middle of this seal is half as large as the pipe of the air intake, the new seal´s hole is as large as the pipe of the air intake. This is the only difference between the Civic with 75 HP and 90 HP, nothing else has to be changed (even the controller unit is the same). Hope that helps. Alex
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